There are two kinds of retirement account:
Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974 (ERISA)
administered by the U.S. Department of Labor
defines retirement accounts and sets standards to protect workers.
https://www.dol.gov/sites/dolgov/files/EBSA/about-ebsa/our-activities/resource-center/faqs/retirement-plans-and-erisa-compliance.pdf
Terms
Typically a worker and/or his employer make contributions to the plan while the worker is working. When the worker retires, he begins to make withdrawals.
Immediately upon leaving an employer, the employee is advised to transfer any pension plan to a self-directed IRA.
aka retirement distribution strategy, retirement income strategy, retirement drawdown strategy.
Some goals of a withdrawal strategy can include:
Taking explicit RMD amounts results in excessive tax payments.
Vanguard: a guide to Retirement Withdrawal Strategies
https://investor.vanguard.com/investor-resources-education/article/retirement-withdrawal-strategies
Kiplinger: 10 Ways Retirees Can Manage Income Distribution
https://www.kiplinger.com/retirement/ways-retirees-can-manage-income-distribution
three types of accounts:
RMD is a scam.
Roth Conversion is the antidote.
IRAs can be combined. 401k must be taken individually. balance for the previous year, divided by the distribution period use Table III. Uniform Distribution Period - this is used by the retiree/owner of the account begins the for the tax year in which you turn 72, distribution year when you turn 73. The first year only, you get an extra four months to take the distribution.
Take your first RMD in the year you turn 73 (2025), due before 31 Dec 2025. Based on the balance at the end of the previous tax year (2024).
Any amount can be withdrawn from an IRA and converted to a Roth IRA.
The amount withdrawn is taxed as ordinary income in the current year.
Future growth and earnings are tax free.
1. Take RMD from deferred, move to taxable account.
2. Take Roth from deferred, move to tax-free account.
3. Pay tax from taxable.
[Note. per IB:“You are eligible to convert to a Roth IRA if your modified AGI for the year does not exceed $100,000.” This rule was phased out in 2010. Any amount can be converted.]
When doing a Roth conversion:
IRA is available to US Tax Resident, and every US citizen is a US Tax Resident, regardless of country of residence.
Does not apply to me, because I have no contributions.
applies to earnings, not the contributions
the account must have been open for at least 5 years, and you must meet a qualifying event (e.g., directreaching age 59½, death, disability, or a first-time home purchase up to $10,000).
10% penalty for withdrawal before the 5-year mark
You only need to satisfy this 5-year rule once for all Roth IRAs you own; it doesn’t reset with new accounts.
Does not apply to me, because I’m old.
applies only to persons under age 59-1/2
each conversion has its own clock
10% penalty for withdrawal before the 5-year mark
applies only to conversion principal amount
A Roth account, as well as any IRA or 401K account, cannot be put in a trust. And it cannot be make a joint account.
During your lifetime, you cannot gift or transfer the Roth account to another person.
Non-spouse beneficiaries typically must follow distribution rules, such as withdrawing the funds within a certain timeframe (e.g., 10 years under the SECURE Act for most non-spouse beneficiaries).
Beneficiaries may keep the Roth IRA account and continue to enjoy tax-free growth for some time to come. How long?
In any case, the beneficiaries may withdraw all of the money, tax-free, at any earlier time.
Most likely the beneficiaries will choose to split the account into separate accounts, one for each beneficiary, giving each the flexibility on when to withdraw funds.
Moving assets from one broker to another. Something we do only rarely. But when we do, it turns out to be a complex subject.
rollover - controlled by the IRS.
transfer - outside of the IRS, not taxable, no reporting required.
indirect - check goes from old broker to owner, then to new broker
direct - check goes from old broker to new broker
There are two ways to transfer assets directly from the old broker to the new broker without taking possession and without risking a potential tax liability.
In the fourth way, the old broker sends a check directly to the owner.
4. Indirect Rollover - The owner has to take possession of the funds temporarily, and deposit them with the new broker within 60 days. Furthermore, the old broker will have withheld 20% income tax. And so the owner must make that up, depositing that same additional amount into the new IRA.
This is the fallback position. The “worst-case”.
This is used when the giving broker does not participate in ACAT and is otherwise being uncooperative about giving up your shit.
Transferring a Roth IRA from one custodian to another, such as from E*TRADE to Schwab International, is a straightforward process that doesn’t affect the Roth IRA’s tax status or the 5-year holding period, as long as it’s done correctly. Here’s what happens and how to handle it:
https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc413
https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/retirement-plan-and-ira-required-minimum-distributions-faqs
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/092214/guide-401k-and-ira-rollovers.asp
https://irahelp.com/slottreport/taking-rmds-what-you-must-know-about-moving-your-ira/
https://irahelp.com/slottreport/clarifying-rollovertransfers-rules-when-rmd-due/
https://irahelp.com/slottreport/7-things-you-need-know-about-once-year-rollover-rule/
A rollover occurs when you withdraw cash or other assets from one eligible retirement plan and contribute all or part of it, within 60 days, to another eligible retirement plan. Any taxable eligible rollover distribution paid to you from an employer-sponsored retirement plan is subject to a mandatory income tax withholding of 20%, even if you intend to roll it over later.
You can choose instead a direct rollover, in which you have the payer transfer a distribution directly to another eligible retirement plan (including an IRA). The 20% mandatory withholding doesn’t apply in a direct rollover. The direct rollover is also known as a trustee-to-trustee rollover or an in-kind transfer.
A rollover is a distribution, meaning the assets have been sold and converted to a check.
If the check is made out to me (indirect rollover), it is subject to 20% withholding.
If the check is made out to the receiving firm (direct rollover), no withholding.
Rule: one rollover per year.
A transfer of assets from one trustee to another without a sale is not a distribution, is not a rollover.
Not subject to the “one rollover per year” rule.
Can this be done with ACATS?
Transfer of a 401K is considered a distribution and a rollover.
Therefore, the RMD must be done before the transfer.
Can the RMD be done as a transfer from a 401K to a taxable account?
Transfer of an IRA is not considered a distribution.
Therefore, the RMD can be done after the transfer at the new receiving firm.
IRS forms
Notes
The old IRA custodian reports the distribution to the IRS using Form 1099-R. This form indicates the amount distributed and uses a specific code (e.g., Code G for a rollover) to show it’s intended as a rollover. However, for indirect rollovers, the custodian may not know the funds were rolled over, so the distribution might initially be coded as taxable (e.g., Code 1 for early distribution).
The new IRA custodian reports the deposit as a rollover contribution on Form 5498, which is sent to the IRS and the account holder. This form confirms the amount rolled over into the new IRA.
The account holder reports the rollover on their tax return using Form 1040. On Line 4a (for traditional IRAs), they report the total distribution from Form 1099-R, and on Line 4b, they enter the taxable amount, which is typically $0 if the rollover was completed properly. This informs the IRS that the distribution was rolled over and not taken as income.
The IRS relies on Forms 1099-R, 5498, and the taxpayer’s Form 1040 to track and verify indirect rollovers, ensuring compliance with tax rules. The IRS may audit or request documentation (e.g., bank statements, IRA statements) to verify the rollover if discrepancies arise.
If the full amount isn’t rolled over, the remaining portion is treated as a taxable distribution.
The old IRA custodian may withold 20% for federal taxes on the distribution. The account holder must replace this amount with other funds to effect a full rollover.
1099-R Box 7
two version os the 1099 preliminary rinql
1 - early distribution
G - rollover
complete list of 1000-R Box 7 Codes https://ttlc.intuit.com/turbotax-support/en-us/help-article/retirement-benefits/codes-box-7-1099-r-mean/L5OE1Zdgx_US_en_US
Form 5498 is an IRS tax form that reports information about Individual Retirement Account (IRA) contributions, including traditional IRAs, Roth IRAs, SEP IRAs, and SIMPLE IRAs.
It is issued by the IRA trustee or custodian and must be sent to both the taxpayer and the IRS by May 31 of the following year.
The form is for informational purposes only and does not need to be filed with the tax return.
Form 5498 includes details such as the amount of contributions, rollovers, Roth IRA conversions, and required minimum distributions (RMDs).
It also reports the fair market value (FMV) of the IRA account at the end of the year.
For Roth IRAs, contributions are not deductible on the tax return, but the form is still important for tracking basis and future distributions.
If a taxpayer made a traditional IRA to Roth IRA conversion, the value of the traditional IRA at the end of the year is needed for tax purposes, which can be found on the December account statement.
The form is also used to track RMDs, which are required for individuals aged 70½ and older.
In summary, Form 5498 is an important document for tracking IRA activity, but it is not required to be filed with the tax return.
It is recommended to keep the form for personal records, especially for Roth IRAs, as it may be needed for future distributions.
We can accept a check or an SDFCU-ACH into any of our three accounts.
I do not see a way to move funds from Individual to IRA.
But I assume we could move funds from Individual to bank and from there to IRA.
Check out from DWS for 100,000. 20,000 withheld, 100,000 reported on 1099-R
In the Rollover IRA account:
A check deposit from DWS for 80,000 - rollover contribution
plus an ACH deposit from me for 20,000 - rollover contribution to make up withholding
for a total indirect rollover of 100,000 - rollover contribution shown on Form 5498
The transfer or rollover becomes especially important when an expat finds his IRA account frozen or closed because of Know Your Customer concerns. For example, when a custodian considers his customer to have left the USA, the customer may close the customer's account and send a check for the proceeds to his American address on file. In this event, the customer must open a new IRA account at Interactive Brokers or Charles Schwab International, and deposit the check within 60 days to effect an indirect rollover. If he gets delayed and misses the 60-day timeframe, the transaction will be treated as a taxable distribution of the full amount.
I have no data from anyone who has experienced this, but the following articles describe the phenomenon.
H&R Block: What are the rules on IRAs for US citizens living abroad?
26 Oct 2022
https://www.hrblock.com/expat-tax-preparation/resource-center/income/retirement/what-are-the-rules-on-iras-for-u-s-citizens-living-abroad/?srsltid=AfmBOor6uuYvzcwIsCEY9WlBwXJqgQgGM49DHmhLPYloqiDPDrmJqHUj
Yes, a U.S. citizen living abroad can have both a traditional and/or Roth IRA. The restrictions only come with making contributions—so, if you had an existing IRA before you moved abroad, you don’t have to get rid of it or transfer assets, but you may not be able to add to it while you’re overseas.
Harrison Brook: Your IRA in the US is closing? How to quickly rollover as an expat.
15 May 2023, by Ryan Frost
https://harrisonbrook.com/your-ira-in-the-us-is-closing-how-to-quickly-roll-over-as-an-expat/
When these firms discover a customer no longer physically resides in the United States, they may freeze their brokerage accounts or force American expats to liquidate their investment holdings.
Harrison Brook: Can American Expats keep an old address on their US brokerage accounts?
14th March 2024 by Ryan Frost
https://harrisonbrook.com/can-american-expats-keep-an-old-address-on-their-us-brokerage-accounts/
Americans living abroad have been told by their banks or brokerage firms that their accounts have been restricted or need to be closed. It is a really stressful situation that many American Expats are going through right now. Many firms like Morgan Stanley, Fidelity, Wells Fargo, Merrill Lynch, and UBS have been part of this new trend. It is a common question for Expats.
Is it illegal to keep an old address?
As it is not illegal, should you disclose your current residential address to your investment institutions?
Investments For Expats (IFE): What happens if your IRA account closes down as a US expat?
byline Henry Temple-Baxter
https://investmentsforexpats.com/what-happens-if-your-ira-account-closes-down-as-u-s-expat/
[This page is largely a duplicate of Ryan Frost’s article above.]
Greenback: Moving Your Retirement Account Overseas
8 Jan 2025
https://www.greenbacktaxservices.com/knowledge-center/expat-retirement-planning/
First, some US retirement plan administrators are unwilling to work with a person who no longer lives in the United States. In some cases, they may freeze the 401(k) (in terms of not accepting new contributions to the 401(k)), and in other cases, they may even close the 401(k). Thus, you must retain a US retirement plan administrator who can work with US expats.
Chase Buchanan: US-Connected Persons
no date, no author byline
https://chasebuchanan.com/services/us-connected-persons/
Professional advice is even more important for US expats, given that a substantial proportion of banks and financial institutions based in America will not serve clients living abroad.
The Wealth Genesis: Managing Your US IRA As An Expat
no date, no author byline
https://www.thewealthgenesis.com/insights/managing-your-us-ira-as-an-expat
“Many US custodians will enforce a transfer to another provider, giving you 60 days to transfer your IRA account to avoid restrictions.”
Note: Wealth Genesis charges a flat £3000 (GBP) fee for wealth planning